Gottschalk Comes
M, b. circa 1510, d. before 17 January 1586/87
Gottschalk Comes was born circa 1510 in Munchen Gladbach-Venn, Germany.1 He resided on the lower Palatinate lying on both sides of the Rhine River.1 He died before 17 January 1586/87 in Munchen Gladbach-Venn, Germany.1
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- [S117] Michael James Godshalk, Godshalk History, 109.
Thonis E Comes
M, b. circa 1535
Father | Gottschalk Comes b. c 1510, d. b 17 Jan 1586/87 |
Thonis E Comes was born circa 1535 in Munchen Gladbach-Venn, Germany. He was a farmer and acquired between 1587 and 1607 the farm known as "Comis-Hof", Munchen Gladbach-Venn, Germany.1 He was a Mennonite.1 He was listed as a church elder and preacher in Munchen Gladbach-Venn, Germany.1 As a represenative of his congregation he signed on 1 May 1591 the Concept of Cologne, which was an attempt to bring unity to the Anabaptist movement. It was signed by fifteen preachers of the High Germans and the Frisians and later by the Waterlanders.2
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- [S117] Michael James Godshalk, Godshalk History, 110.
- [S117] Michael James Godshalk, Godshalk History, 110, also. <<http://www.gameo.org/encyclopedia/contents/C6618.html>>
Gottschalk Comes
M, b. circa 1565
Father | Thonis E Comes b. c 1535 |
Gottschalk Comes was born circa 1565 in Munchen Gladbach-Venn, Germany. He married Vitgen van der Heiden circa 1584.1 Gottschalk Comes acquired on 25 March 1596 the farm known as Heckengut, in Honschaft Damm, Germany, in the Alst, near Munchen-Gladbach.1 He was a farmer.1 He and Vitgen were Mennonites.1
Family | Vitgen van der Heiden d. b 7 Oct 1606 |
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- [S117] Michael James Godshalk, Godshalk History, 111.
Thones Comes
M, b. circa 1596, d. before 1 February 1667/68
Father | Gottschalk Comes b. c 1565 |
Mother | Vitgen van der Heiden d. b 7 Oct 1606 |
Thones Comes was born circa 1596 in Munchen Gladbach-Venn, Germany.1 His full complete name was Thones Comes Veit der Heiden.2 He married Oelletgen (?) circa 1620.2 Thones Comes fled in 1654 from his estate in Munchehen Gladbach Venn, as all Mennonites were forced to do so to Goch, Duchy of Cleves.2 He was a weaver and cloth merchant.2 He died before 1 February 1667/68 in Goch, Duchy of Cleves.1
Family | Oelletgen (?) b. c 1596 |
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Oelletgen (?)
F, b. circa 1596
Oelletgen (?) was born circa 1596.1 She married Thones Comes, son of Gottschalk Comes and Vitgen van der Heiden, circa 1620.2 As of circa 1620, her married name was Comes.2
Family | Thones Comes b. c 1596, d. b 1 Feb 1667/68 |
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Gottschalk Thonis
M, b. between 1625 and 1630, d. after 25 January 1708/9
Father | Thones Comes b. c 1596, d. b 1 Feb 1667/68 |
Mother | Oelletgen (?) b. c 1596 |
Charts | Ancestors of Chuck Wolfram |
Gottschalk Thonis was born between 1625 and 1630 in Heckenhof, near in Munchen Gladbach-Venn, Germany.1 He was a servant to Hans Newes in 1654. He married Lehntgen Henrichs, daughter of Henrich Wilhelms and Entgen (?), in 1654.1 Gottschalk Thonis married Gertud (?) probably in 1676 or 1677.1 Gottschalk Thonis was a weaver and merchant. He was ordained a preacher in the Mennonite Church in 1682. He died after 25 January 1708/9 in Goch, Duchy of Cleves.2
Family 1 | Lehntgen Henrichs d. b 1676 |
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Family 2 | Gertud (?) |
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Lehntgen Henrichs
F, d. before 1676
Father | Henrich Wilhelms |
Mother | Entgen (?) |
Charts | Ancestors of Chuck Wolfram |
Lehntgen Henrichs married Gottschalk Thonis, son of Thones Comes and Oelletgen (?), in 1654.1 As of 1654, her married name was Thonis.1 Lehntgen Henrichs died probably before 1676.1
Family | Gottschalk Thonis b. bt 1625 - 1630, d. a 25 Jan 1708/9 |
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Citations
- [S117] Michael James Godshalk, Godshalk History, 113.
Gertud (?)
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Gertud (?) married Gottschalk Thonis, son of Thones Comes and Oelletgen (?), probably in 1676 or 1677.1 As of 1676 or 1677, her married name was Thonis.1
Family | Gottschalk Thonis b. bt 1625 - 1630, d. a 25 Jan 1708/9 |
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- [S117] Michael James Godshalk, Godshalk History, 113.
Henrich Wilhelms
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Henrich Wilhelms married Entgen (?)
Family | Entgen (?) |
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Entgen (?)
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Entgen (?) married Henrich Wilhelms.
Family | Henrich Wilhelms |
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Herman Opdengraff
M, b. 26 November 1585, d. 27 December 1642
Father | Abraham Opdengraff b. 1562 |
Herman Opdengraff was born on 26 November 1585 in Aldekirk, Muir, Germany.1 Herman was the probable son of Abraham Opdengraff. Herman was the possible son of Johann Wilhelm of Jülich-Cleves-Berg.
I at first considered this possible relationship wishful thinking on the part of somebody who wanted a royal ancestry. I then made the "mistake" of reading the reasons for this possible connection. I deem the relationship unlikely, but stranger things have happened. It is conceivable.
What I find absolutely unbelievable is the possibility of a morganatic marriage with Herman's mother. If Herman is Johan Wilhelm's son, he was illegitimate
Certain facts of Herman's life tend to support a noble birth. He had a coat of arms on his windows, a coat that has certain herdic implications. It was illegal at that time to display arms when you had no right to them. He was religiously tolerant in an intolerant age. Johan Wilhelm had a family that was split between the old and the new religions, Catholicism and Lutheranism. Herman had an excellent education, was cultured, and was a successful entrepreneur.
He provided a home for his mother-in-law at the end of her life (nothing unusual about that, he was being a good Christian son-in-law) but what was unusual was that his mother-in-law was nursed by three Roman Catholic nuns, whom Herman also willingly housed and provided for. These nuns were of high nobel birth, and left their convent in order to care for this woman. That was extremely unusual, considering that Herman, his wife and her mother were all Protestants, and Herman notable among the Reformers. And especially if they were all commoners. Or were they?
Herman Opdengraff married Greitgen Pletjes, daughter of Dries Pleges and Alet Göbels Syllys, on 8 August 1605. The date August 16th is given by the Scheuten manuscripts, so says the webpage Op Den Graeff Ancestry.2 Herman Opdengraff arrived in Krefeld, Duchy of Cleves, circa 1609.2 He died on 27 December 1642 in Krefeld, Duchy of Cleves, at age 57 years, 1 month and 1 day.3
I at first considered this possible relationship wishful thinking on the part of somebody who wanted a royal ancestry. I then made the "mistake" of reading the reasons for this possible connection. I deem the relationship unlikely, but stranger things have happened. It is conceivable.
What I find absolutely unbelievable is the possibility of a morganatic marriage with Herman's mother. If Herman is Johan Wilhelm's son, he was illegitimate
Certain facts of Herman's life tend to support a noble birth. He had a coat of arms on his windows, a coat that has certain herdic implications. It was illegal at that time to display arms when you had no right to them. He was religiously tolerant in an intolerant age. Johan Wilhelm had a family that was split between the old and the new religions, Catholicism and Lutheranism. Herman had an excellent education, was cultured, and was a successful entrepreneur.
He provided a home for his mother-in-law at the end of her life (nothing unusual about that, he was being a good Christian son-in-law) but what was unusual was that his mother-in-law was nursed by three Roman Catholic nuns, whom Herman also willingly housed and provided for. These nuns were of high nobel birth, and left their convent in order to care for this woman. That was extremely unusual, considering that Herman, his wife and her mother were all Protestants, and Herman notable among the Reformers. And especially if they were all commoners. Or were they?
Herman Opdengraff married Greitgen Pletjes, daughter of Dries Pleges and Alet Göbels Syllys, on 8 August 1605. The date August 16th is given by the Scheuten manuscripts, so says the webpage Op Den Graeff Ancestry.2 Herman Opdengraff arrived in Krefeld, Duchy of Cleves, circa 1609.2 He died on 27 December 1642 in Krefeld, Duchy of Cleves, at age 57 years, 1 month and 1 day.3
Family | Greitgen Pletjes b. 16 Oct 1588, d. 7 Jan 1642/43 |
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Greitgen Pletjes
F, b. 16 October 1588, d. 7 January 1642/43
Father | Dries Pleges d. 27 Dec 1645 |
Mother | Alet Göbels Syllys d. 7 Jan 1640 |
Greitgen Pletjes was born on 16 October 1588. She was also listed as being born on 26 November 1588 in Kempen, Holland.1 She married Herman Opdengraff, son of Abraham Opdengraff, on 8 August 1605. The date August 16th is given by the Scheuten manuscripts, so says the webpage Op Den Graeff Ancestry.1 As of 16 August 1605, her married name was Opdengraff. Greitgen Pletjes arrived in Krefeld, Duchy of Cleves, circa 1609.1 She died on 7 January 1642/43 in Krefeld at age 54 years, 2 months and 22 days.1
Family | Herman Opdengraff b. 26 Nov 1585, d. 27 Dec 1642 |
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Citations
- [S1326] Wilhelm Niepoth, "Ancestry of Thirteen Krefeld Emigrants", 193.
Dries Pleges
M, d. 27 December 1645
Dries Pleges married Alet Göbels Syllys. Dries Pleges died on 27 December 1645.
Family | Alet Göbels Syllys d. 7 Jan 1640 |
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Alet Göbels Syllys
F, d. 7 January 1640
Alet Göbels Syllys married Dries Pleges. Her married name was Pleges. Alet Göbels Syllys died on 7 January 1640.
Family | Dries Pleges d. 27 Dec 1645 |
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Isaak Opdengraff
M, b. 28 February 1616, d. 17 January 1669
Father | Herman Opdengraff b. 26 Nov 1585, d. 27 Dec 1642 |
Mother | Greitgen Pletjes b. 16 Oct 1588, d. 7 Jan 1642/43 |
Isaak Opdengraff was born on 28 February 1616 in Krefeld, Duchy of Cleves.1 He married Grietgen Peters. Isaak Opdengraff died on 17 January 1669 in Krefeld, Duchy of Cleves, at age 52 years, 10 months and 20 days.1 He was buried on 19 January 1669 in the Reformed Church, Krefeld, Duchy of Cleves.1
Family | Grietgen Peters b. c 1620, d. 11 Nov 1683 |
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Citations
- [S1326] Wilhelm Niepoth, "Ancestry of Thirteen Krefeld Emigrants", 194.